Friday, September 17, 2010

Mark David Chapman and MK ULTRA?

File this under speculation...

I remember Wayne Madsen writing about MK ULTRA connections to the University of Hawaii:

Although CIA geo-political covert operations at the University of Hawaii are well-documented, the agency’s darker side of research and MK-UKTRA type operations has not generally been associated with the University of Hawaii...

...A series of formerly Confidential CIA memoranda, dated May 15, 1972, points to the involvement of both the Defense Department’s Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA), the CIA, and the University of Hawaii in the CIA’s behavioral science program...

And that is what occurred to me when I read the recent article on Mark David Chapman in The New York Times where it states:

[Chapman] lived in Hawaii at the time, where he drank and became depressed, a condition worsened from working nights as a security guard in Honolulu. He bought a gun and flew with it, unloaded, to New York, eventually getting bullets from a police officer friend in Atlanta who thought they were for Mr. Chapman’s protection.

I find the bit about getting the bullets from the police officer in Atlanta eerily similar to the guns for more recent lone gunmen coming from the same Memphis police vault.

Of interest is also perhaps this section:

“Well, I saw a movie,” he said. “I can’t remember the title of it, it was an important movie” — he has identified the movie as “Ordinary People” in the past — “and I came out of the movie theater and called my wife and for the first time, I told her,” he said. “I told her what I was going to do, and I was crying. And I said I thought about life and thought about my grandmother, and I told her, I said: ‘Your love has saved me. I’m coming home.’ And she said, ‘Just come home. Please, come home.’ ”

“So at that point, I had abandoned all of the plans and was going to throw the gun in the river and that type of thing and come back and everything was going to be O.K. Of course, that didn’t happen.”

Was that Chapman's Queen Of Diamonds? It makes you laugh doesn't it? Ordinary People...Perhaps more likely just an emotional film which had a strong effect on Chapman.

There is also mention in the article of a mysterious judge who seeks to help Chapman when he is out of prison.

That isn't much, but maybe some of you out there know more and are welcome to comment with additional information.


  1. What I find more puzzling his Chapman's confession - when he had no recollection of aiming or pulling the trigger. There's also the little problem of the physical evidence - the entry and exit wounds indicate Lennon was shot from inside the hotel - whereas Chapman was in the street. I write about this, as well as my own close encounter with the seamier side of US intelligence in my recent memoir THE MOST REVOLUTIONARY ACT: MEMOIR OF AN AMERICAN REFUGEE ( I currently live in exile in New Zealand.

  2. Chapman used Hollow point bullets which ricochet once they hit the target. It is conceivable that he could have caused the wounds inflicted on Lennon from his position.

  3. john lennon was killed bu the same people who killed jfk, megar evers, malcom x, rfk, same mk ultra, but the ones who called the shots are dead. so the new head of mk ultra, call the shots. again this will happen in the future. a lone nut. the u.s. goverment is behind all the killings. thats a fact. even i been targeted.